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When to choose extended pedal axles

Article · about 6 minutes to read · general advice, not medical advice

The length of the pedal axle determines how far from the crank your feet stand. A standard axle is enough for most riders, but for some a longer axle prevents the heel from rubbing the crank and relieves the knee or hip. Research evidence is still scarce, so it relies mainly on fitters' experience.

Pedals with a longer axle: Wahoo Speedplay, Shimano Ultegra and Dura-Ace +4 mm
Pedals with a longer axle: Wahoo Speedplay with an extended axle (bottom left), and Shimano Ultegra (top) and Dura-Ace (right) in the versions with a 4 mm longer axle.
In short
  • The standard axle of road pedals is roughly 52–53 mm. Longer versions add 3 to 12 mm per side.
  • A longer axle suits you when your heel rubs the crank (toes pointing out, “V feet”), when your knee drifts outward, or when the standard stance does not feel right.
  • First try moving the cleat and check the saddle height. Choose a longer axle only afterwards, and in small steps.
  • You cannot judge stance width from a side photo. Judge it by feel, rubbing and a view from the front.
Q-factor (crank width)axlestance width (pedal to pedal)front view
Diagram: the pedal axle is the distance from the outer face of the crank to the centre of the pedal. A longer axle widens the stance but does not change the crank width.

1. Three terms that often get mixed up

  • Q-factor is the width of the cranks, that is the distance between the outer faces of the two cranks. Road cranks are about 145–150 mm (Shimano around 146 mm), mountain bike cranks about 168–170 mm.
  • Axle length is the distance from the outer face of the crank to the centre of the pedal. Manufacturers sometimes wrongly call it the pedal Q-factor.
  • Stance width is the distance between the centres of the two pedals. Example: 146 mm cranks and 53 mm axles give a 252 mm stance.

A longer axle therefore widens the stance, but the crank Q-factor does not change.

2. Who a longer axle suits

What you noticeWhy a longer axle may help
The heel rubs the crank while pedalling (typically when your toes point out, “V feet”)the foot moves further from the crank and the heel has free space
Knees drift outward at the top and come back inward at the bottoma wider stance can guide the knee more directly. But first check the saddle height; a saddle that is too low causes a similar movement
Wider hips or a different body build, pressure on the inside of the kneethe feet stand closer to the natural width of your legs
Modern cranks and a wide bottom bracket (BB) take away heel spacea longer axle gives back the lost clearance
My experience

My feet are turned out more into a V and my heel used to rub the crank. Extended Wahoo Speedplay axles helped me and my hips felt more relaxed. Shimano cleats also did not allow the float I needed; Speedplay lets you set it (0° to 15° according to the manufacturer). This is a personal experience, not the result of a study.

Every leg is different. Fitters sometimes extend only one side.

3. What research says

There are few studies on stance width. One of the best known is the dissertation by B. Disley (University of Birmingham, 2014). It examined the effect of Q-factor on knee movement, efficiency and oxygen consumption in trained cyclists. According to the available abstract the effect of width was not clear-cut, and large differences between riders mean there is no single ideal width. It did not, however, test extended pedal axles or heel rubbing.

Fitting websites state that there are almost no articles on common stance-width formulas. The assumption that a small change of a few millimetres noticeably worsens aerodynamics or power is a guess. Comfort and clearance should therefore decide, not theory.

4. Available pedals and axle lengths

Manufacturer, modelStandard axleLonger (or shorter) variantsNote
Shimano Dura-Ace and Ultegra (SPD-SL)about 52 mm+4 mm (about 56 mm)same platform, the difference is only in the axle
Wahoo Speedplay Zero53 mm56, 59 and 65 mmlonger axles are sold by Wahoo and fitters. Nano, Comp and Aero have 53 mm, Power 55 mm
Look Keo Blade53 mm56 mmKeo Max and older Keo: 53 mm
Time Xpro (10, 12, 12 SL)53 mm51 mm (narrow), 57 mm (wide)Xpresso has only one length
Garmin Rally (power meter)53 mm55 mm with the supplied 2 mm spacerI did not find a longer axle

Values are figures from manufacturers and retailers. The way of measuring differs; for Shimano sources give 52 to 54 mm, so rely on the +4 mm difference and confirm the exact length with the seller. For Wahoo Zero 55 mm is also quoted; catalogues differ.

Two Shimano Ultegra pedals with extended axles
Shimano Ultegra pedals with extended axles: each pedal sits 4 mm further from the crank than a standard pedal. Photo: the author.
Shoe sole with a Wahoo Speedplay cleat and an extended pedal axle
My setup: a Wahoo Speedplay cleat and an extended pedal axle. Photo: the author.

5. What to try before buying longer pedals

SolutionNote
Move the cleat towards the shoe, foot further outthe cheapest and you can try it right away, but the range is limited (with Look only about 5 mm sideways)
A spacer under the axle (about 1.5 mm)only a small adjustment. Make sure enough thread remains in the pedal, at most one per pedal
Axle extender (e.g. 20 mm per side)a big step and extra weight. Suitable more for marked deviations; discuss it with a fitter
A pedal with a longer axlethe clean solution: Speedplay 56–65 mm, Shimano +4 mm, Look Blade 56 mm, Time Xpro 57 mm

6. How to proceed

  • Check the saddle height and cleat position, because similar symptoms often have other causes.
  • Try moving the cleat first, and only then change the axle.
  • Start with the smallest step (Shimano +4 mm, Look 56 mm, Speedplay 56 mm) and ride at least several longer rides.
  • Change only one thing at a time and judge each leg separately.
  • Check the clearance: heel and crank, and with long threads also the chain or belt.
Caution

Changing the stance width changes the load on the knee and hip. If pain appears, go back to the original setting. With persistent pain or a big difference between the legs, see a bike fitter or physiotherapist.

Details and sources

Technical data come from manufacturers and retailers. There are few documented studies and most of the advice is based on fitters' practice.

The advice is general, and the sources sometimes disagree in the numbers. When in doubt, have a fitter determine the axle.

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